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The Traditional Knowledge Process (PDF)

THE TRADITIONAL KNOWLEDGE PROCESS

A Review by Apela, Busaba and Martina

July 28 and 29, Lahaina, Maui, Hawaii

Lunar Eclipse

Working Title: HOW TWO DRAGONS DANCE TOGETHER, the beauty of

opposition.

Process:

Paradoxical. Frustration if we try to direct. If I want to scream, the scream

doesn’t come.

I laugh and begin to cry.

TKN and RIM died at the Shadows during the student “evaluation.” At that

moment the Program began to live. Esther acknowledged the students

and said she would teach her songs to them. Was the “death” being

released by the CIIS admin.? Termination didn’t formally happen for

nearly a year.

Dreams/Visions:

Dreams end. What’s the process? Of death?

Who knows when to let go? How?

In English, the word “dead” has no movement. In our process we have

movement even though it has been a death. Movement because energy

is involved.

This is what connects the two opposites, the energy of movement.

Right Movement or Message of the Mask

Symbols of the process. Have to die to begin. Walk through the darkness

with new eyes to see through to the light. In the old way of thinking, going

back or into the darkness makes me want to run away in fear. But the

darkness has a message for us to learn. If we refuse to enter the darkness,

the Shadow returns each time with more fear because we have lost to it

before. Now we need to look back into it for the light which is the starting

point! As an individual this process applies. That’s how students arrived.

The darkness has to be through ME, how I am. We feel the connection to

self and others in the darkness and think beyond individualistic thinking. I

perceive the whole (how opposites can integrate, the individual and

whole of self/others.)

Traditional Example: The Story of Raven and the Light teaches the

negativity of light, it separates and differentiates.

We live our lives in a separate way because we don’t want to embrace

the darkness. I see that center of peace in my screaming.

How Do We Know We Are In The Darkness?

Never get my way, feels like I am losing everything because we can’t see!

We must be prepared for the bucket dropping on our head! “I can’t

believe I’m having so much bad luck!”

Admitting my darkness, i.e., I don’t know if I would like to work with Apela.

Is what creates the opening.

Each person is a mask and is a part of a greater mask being formed.

There is tremendous fear and worry. Trying to see in the darkness we

notice other sets of eyes looking back! That’s what makes us want to run

away in fear!

How Do We Know When We Have Learned The Lesson of Darkness?

Don’t know when and how it changed but we are brought to a new

consciousness through chaos. If you’re not afraid you can come close to

movement.

We have to experience the opposite energies. Western rational and

religious thought stresses the Light.

Gays are born with the 2 dragons together. Slowly heterosexuals have to

realize that being whole requires both qualities joined. Yet the boundary

doesn’t exist. It’s a paradox. We don’t know how to weave the 2 dragons

together. TKN teaches us, i.e., at the beginning we chased away the

White students but they kept following us. The more we ran the more they

chased!

Brian represented the warrior and observed that we have to

acknowledge the existence of the while world in us as individuals and

communities.

Benefits and Gains of Walking Through the Underground

“I’m more comfortable in the darkness.”

Less likely to be controlled by fear, anger, etc.

We get an energetic charge to us; when we get together, IGNITION!

People can see this energy and are drawn towards it.

Walking through the darkness honors our ancestors because that’s where

they are, in the obscurity of the past, our history.

To go back to the past, to remember, Makua

says, “We receive the greatest gift of the

ancestors which is the present. That’s why they

call it a present!”

We create with the pain; we bring life forward.

It’s a paradox. In chaos, we laugh and cry at one moment. Before

wedidn’t allow contradictions and ambiguities to coexist. Now we can,

and it’s why we can come back! (from the underworld)

I couldn’t see the meaning or the creative process because it was in

darkness! This is actually a protection.

It was meant to be that ways or we wouldn’t have the darkness to light

message of the TKN process.

A Spirit coming to live in a body must experience the density and darkness

of material form; it’s the only way to arrive.

Embodiment of the whole is entering darkness; therefore, walk through it.

Accept it.

This is the process t ground the Western Mind.

This trip through the darkness has been the curriculum; is the curriculum.

When we live it, the curriculum becomes us! Now we can pass it on.

SUMMARY

How to we know this is an accurate representation of a creative process?

There are traditional stories that pertain:

Raven Breaks Light (Tlingit)

The Bluejay Story (Shoshone)

A Sweatlodge teaches the process. In the Sweat we feel fear. Fear of no

body because we can’t see and the fear of bodily limits, e.g., intense

heat.

Even the reflection that generated the notes was the same dark process. I

noticed how negative I was feeling but did not judge it. Instead, I thought,

“Oh, that’s interesting. I wonder what’s going on.” This comfort with my

own darkness and ambiguity is a result of the TKN process. I also retained

my objectivity in noticing my negativity. I thought, I’m unhappy.

Something must be wrong. It must be me. No, it’s not me, it’s Busaba.

She’s causing my suffering and should be punished!

I noticed this in an early morning drive east to the other side of the island.

As I approached the Pali or cliff that juts out to the sea and marks the

turning point of the journey, I became aware of these thoughts and

wondered how or if I would be able to get out of them today.

When Busaba and I sat down at the Mall to reflect on the TKN process, I

told her the thoughts I had on the drive over. She said she was in a bad

place, too; she was even wearing all black!

We decided to pray but I was so crabby that I couldn’t formulate words.

We sat in silence with our eyes closed for a few minutes and began.

Thoughts, memories and images flowed. Two and a half hours later, we

stopped. We were not late to go to the airport, which was the purpose of

the drive!

We noticed that even speaking of the dark journey changes time and

space. There was no time; there was no mall!

We struggled to recall the question that we began with. It was, “What did

you experience in the TKN process?” Busaba and I reflected on the

personal experience of being in the darkness. We spoke about ourselves

and realized that, in the darkness,

I can talk about me and even you but not really

you, just my view of you. You are a mask of

healing for me. This understanding bypasses the

ego. I can talk about my negative experience of

my experience of you without judgment of YOU.

This allows me to do my work; to examine you as

the teacher in my life and to own my own issues.

It’s transformative.

So, we began in silence; and acknowledged where we were at, including

the negative. We were present in the moment. This is the beautiful

beginning of who you are, what comes to you in your individual reflection

in the moment. Why is this true? (that this ‘insight’ is really true?) Because

at the end, we come to the beginning and we recognize the end

moment when we say,

OH, I SEE . . .

The ego blocks the experience of darkness or light and catches us in

chaoswithout our knowing.

What joins darkness and light? Birth! The process of birth and death. Hold

onto yourself through the darkness with silence, humility, release and

nonattachment. Then SCREAM!

In the process of going through the darkness, every level of our ife is hit,

personal, family, professional, community . . . you are compelled to open

more and more. This is a purification; this is birth and death; this is creation.

And it is the feminine Power of the woman, Earth, Moon, Water, Venus.

The way to face it is exemplified in the Shoshone song, “running With the

Buffalo.” When facing a winter storm on the prairie, the buffalo turns into it,

begins to walk with deliberate steps towards it and then lowers its head

and CHARGES THE STORM!

As a result of the TKN process, I am able to be present with my Elders and

my oldest daughter now works with the language. (Martina)

In this conversation, Chyna, the author’s daughter, joined the discussion.

We have noticed that the dark journey is the power of money, Little

People, sexuality and transformation.0

20 August 1988 Personal Correspondence on Community Culture Healing, Spirit and Science (PDF)

Aug. 20, ’88.

Dear Pam

I write to you again. For your laugh, I quote a joke.

“A famous physicist worried about Library space projected

that, at the present rate of increase in the number of articles

published in Physical Review, they will soon reach a rate which

will have to fill library shelves with the Speed exceeding that

of Light. However, this does not violate the Principle of

Relativity, for the journals contain no Information.

[Physics Today Aug. ’88. P. 9.]

– – – – – – – – –

I have a proposal to make, and I would like to discuss the

matter. How about writing a paper on European and Native

Community/Culture Healing as a Therapy/Medicine? I know I am

trying to push you to do an Academic thing. But, now that you

moved, there is nothing much I can do anyway. So perhaps it is

safe to make a proposal. Besides, I do not know how “Community/

Culture Healing” would fit with what you do on the job. Please

let me know the situation.

The idea came from reading an article by William K. Powers

“Alternatives To Western Psychotherapy: Modern-Day Medicine Man”

mentioned before [In Beyond The Vision U. of Oklahoma Press 1987.

Psychotherapy has Psychoanalysis as a theoretical part, though

the relation of “Theory” and “Practice” contains problems.

Likewise, Native Medicine has Native Science, though the relation

between them may be different from that in European system. But

the Science ought to be relevant and helpful to practice of the

Medicine. In fact, we have been deciphering Native Science from

the Medicine in the traditional culture, as the Science existed

there to deal with problems in life.

The comparison of the complex of science-therapy in Western

Culture to one in another Culture is interesting enough. But I am

not just proposing to make a comparison. Something new is added.

Native Community/Culture is facing new problems stemming from its

encounter with Western Ideology and Technology. The new problems

require new responses. It means more trouble, but that also means

a new development in Science for both sides. As a “Wisdom”,

Native Science needs not to change, but its expressions have to

reflect the changed environment in order to be helpful to the

people. You have been on that task. But if you wish to elaborate

on Native Science at higher and deeper level of

Native Science, working out “practical applications” is one of

the ways to do that. Comparison is a mere entry device.

As “Spirit” is revealed through manifestations, the Science

is learnable through “working it out” (praxis). Writing a paper

is a way of helping people who face up to the problems and

looking for ways of healing. The paper may look “theoretical”,

but it is (i) a report on experiences, and/or (ii) elaboration of

“strategy”. It is not “Wisdom” itself, but it is an intermediate

“translation” in a sense of being an “approach to”, or a “way

to”. Just as we cannot prescribe “Vision”, we cannot describe

“Wisdom”. We can, however, talk about experiences or the

procedure leading up to it.

And, to the extent the problems are brought by “European”

things, what we write have to contain “European” things. That is

the necessity of the circumstance, and also from the work being

“translation”, “interface”, and “praxis in the present world”.

There is an element of “Beating European Intellect at its

own Game”. We might say “If Europeans brought Guns to Natives,

Native Science can shoot the same guns better”, or “If Christians

talk of Love, Native Science does it better”. It is not that

competition is the aim, but the pains and suffering of the people

under “European Power Science” is real — unfortunately we in

bourgeoisie academy do not immediately experience them — and a

way of Medicine/Therapy must be proposed now.

Actually, for this, it probably matters little if it is

called “Native Science”, “Marxism”, or “Born-Again Christianity”.

There are “Natives” colonized all over the World, even in Europe.

In some degree, I have a special interest in Japanese affairs

which do contain “Native Problems”, and you have “Native

Americans’ in the center of your heart, and in that we are

“Racists”. But I do have something beyond that, which has to do

with “People”, “Humans,”, not “Race”. I am not helping Native

Americans as a Race. It makes me feel sad to think, but I stand

outside “Native American Science” — She is your baby. I adore

her, but that is all I can —. At least, I try to avoid becoming

a “Fake Indian”. [I saw an NFB film on Long Lance: “Chief Buffalo

Child”.]

It does give me a pain of being an “Outsider”, forever

segregated and cast away from the happy community of people whom

I care, but I hope I have a spiritual strength to withstand the

alienation. The danger of the alienation becoming a bitterness

and then intellectua1 arrogance is great. But that is where

devices, strategies such as Participatory Research come in. It is

an intellectual thing to do, and as such, it perhaps is not quite

genuinely

satisfying. If Alcoholism is a problem, Intellectualism is also a

problem.

However, I think that there is a “meaning” in both

Alcoholism and Intellectualism. Rejecting or rather pretending

that one is staying clear out of the problems, with righteous

contempt, is not an answer. I would much rather have you drinking

and suffering than being like an angel. For the pain can also be

source of creative energy. The period of Colonialism is not yet

over, and if we are comfortable in the World as it is today,

there is no reason for us to do anything about it. At least, in

that way I can talk with you.

I said the above, because if you are “Perfect Indian”,

“Noble Savage Philosopher”, you would not play with an academic

game like writing intellectual paper. A Japanese proverb has it

that “Great Man is a Useless Man” — nobody can use him, nor

does he use anybody —. But, I would like to drag you down to a

lesser being who suffers pain like “ordinary” people do and

could, at the best, be “useful” to people as such. If there is no

problem, pain, malaise, there can be no Science. Both

Intellectualism and Alcoholism are product/expression of

suffering. I would dare further to say that Spiritualizing is a

“moral equivalent” of Alcoholism.

Now, that has been my excuse to you to make a proposal. For

you to judge whether it is helpful or not, you would ask what it

involves. So I shall explain.

One important thing Powers missed in the article is that

Native Medicine is done as “Communal Affair”, if not “Ceremony”,

whereas Western Psychotherapy is highly individualistic ritual.

That stems from Psychoanalysis being an analysis (theoretical

construct) about the Individual. Freud’s paradigm is to “adjust”

deviant individuals to the given Civilization (*1). C.G. Jung saw

this defect/limitation in Freud’s works. He went to “Collective

Unconscious” etc. to correct the ignorance/ignoring, and made

“Psychoanalysis” useful in “Social Psychology”, “Anthropology”

and “Linguistics”. Jung’s works were closer to Hegelian Field

Dynamics, as a contrast to Newton-Kantian Mechanics of Freud. And

it opened a way to “Cultural Analysis”, supplementing “Social

Analysis/Criticism” of Marx et al. You might say it is

“Environmental Science” in contrast to Individualistic/Atomistic

Science of a single Tree.

(*1) [To be sure, Freud did write Der Zukunft einer Illusion

1927, Das Unbehagen in der Kultur 1930. It is interesting

to note that the English translation of the second book is

“Civilization and Its Discontents”. Freud knew better than

confusing

Civilization with Culture. But the title was approved by

Freud. The reason become clear if one reads the book. The

“culture” of Europe in the 20th century is nothing but a

“Civilization” — i.e. Technopolis —. Freud, in his zeal

to establish his science to be an Eternal Truth, totally

ignored History of European Social Technology. (Jung failed

in this respect as well.) It is surprising to see this in

an intellectual circle in which Hegel and Marx were well

known. Perhaps, it was Newton-Kantian blindness to History.

Or, it is because European chemistry (Atomism) was A-
Historical (Non-Dynamical).

It is also interesting to note that, the term “Unbehagen”

is equivalent of French “malaise”, that is more like

“disease”. “Discontent” came from the first title Freud

gave, which was “Das Ungluck”. The translation of the title

is not quite right, but from the content of the book the

English title is just right. That is, Freud failed to treat

the “Disease” of the modern European Civilization in which

he was a part. European Science has had this peculiar

posture of as if God was looking at problems from outside.

Scholars talked as if they themselves had no problem of

their own. A.A. made one progress in this respect in that

they talk of “My problem”. What I like to see is a Science

of “Our problem”.]

However, even Jung did not come to think of “Therapy on

Community”. Social Psychology, Anthropology, or for that matter,

Sociology, Economics, did not think of practice of “Therapy” in

relation to them as “Science”. Marx, Keynes were exceptions. It

was not that Social Scientists did not attempt to influence

Social Policies, or Psychologists did not interfere with

Educational Policies. The relation between these Sciences and

Practices were not only obscured by pretended “Scientific

Objectivity”, or “Value Neutrality”, but also ignored, perhaps,

from their “Static-ism” (inactivism), if not incompetence. They

did not have the degree of relation that physics had with

Industrial applications, and Medical Science had with Clinical

Practice.

I imagine “Social Work/Welfare” uses existing Social

Sciences as its theoretical grounds (metaphysical axioms and

Rhetoric-Jargons). Yet, I wonder if the relation is clear at all.

Suppose an Economist proved that in a pluralistic society, “the

Value Maximum does not exist”, what change then social

work/welfare as a discipline of practice would undergo? In fact

the proof was given by Arrow in 1940’s (*2), but I am afraid

Scholars in Social Work/Welfare behave as if they are totally

ignorant of implications of Arrow’s Impossibility Theorem, just

as the

most Natural Scientists are oblivious to Godel’s Incompleteness

Proof. If the Science means anything, one would expect certain

effects from changes in the science to changes in the practice,

at least something comparable to that from Medical Science to

Clinical Practice.

I am not saying every “theory” has to have direct and

immediate effects on practices in therapy/healing. For the case

of Native Communities, even the identification of problems is a

problem for itself , let alone talking of Healing. But then, I

would expect that Native Science is relevant and useful in the

identification (diagnosis/analysis). I also expect the Science to

provide a “Language” by which the problems can be described,

communicated, and efficiently understood, so that people can make

an effective co-operation.

Now, I am quite aware that there are difficulties, say in

the relation between Western Sciences and their therapeutic

practices. There exists no such thing as “Sociotherapy”, so that

I cannot comment on what Social Science does. Incidentally,

Gellner mentioned before [The Psychoanalytic Movement. Paldin

1985.] discussed the problems in Psychoanalysis/therapy.

Gellner, however, took a rhetorical posture of comparing

“Psychoanalysis” to other Sciences, and pretended that other

Sciences, particularly Natural Science, have no such problem. It

is false. There is no “Science” that is free from troubles. Every

one of them has one degree of trouble or another. In fact,

Natural Science escapes the trouble by ignoring — only deals

with simple linearized models —. Even our “Logic” has troubles

when it tries to deal with “dynamics”, beyond its traditional

“static” and “atomistic” territory. [Russell’s Paradox, etc. see

The Mathematical Experience. P.J. Davis, R. Hersh. Penguin 1984

for example.] It appears that Gellner is ignorant about these

problems in Western Science. Unfortunately, this ignorance, or

rather ignoring, about Logical foundation is rather universal

among English speaking “philosophers of science”.

[I picked up from the New book section of our library a

book; Philosophy, Science And Social Inquiry, by D.C.

Philips. It is a neat summary of “British-American

Philosophy Of Science”. There is no mention of the problems

in Logic. It has a chapter on “Neo-Hegelian Critique”, but

there is no discussion of Hegel’s “Logic of Science”.

On the other hand, if we read, say, Paul Ricoeur’s Lectures

On Ideology And Utopia, the whole 19th century German

Philosophy, covered by Marx’s German Ideology, was a

struggle on “Science”. But it is

not recognized by British-American Academia. It appears

that there was an implicit censorship by those who were in

the academic “Empire Building”. They appear to be no

different from Racists and Colonialists.]

What is interesting, however, in Gellner’s book is that

despite his implicit rhetorical assumption, the troubles of

Natural Science come out. His criticisms against Psychoanalysis

being not a science are applicable to Natural Science just as

well. That is why it is worth reading

Of course, Freud failed to achieve his ambitious goal.

Rather, he went back to the level of Newtonian Mechanics, and

treated “Civilization” to be a “State of Technology” in a

society. His therapy was a technology of adapting individuals to

the society dominated by the Technology. It did not come to

Therapy on the Technology itself. Besides, he was a self-centered

S.O.B., of which many books had been written. That was very

common, Ego-Inflating effect of the Competitive Intellectualism

that we are under. I hope efforts such as Participatory Research

would take care of the problem of Intellectual imperialism (or

rather Judeo-Christian Superiority-Persecution Complex) in

Science.

In this respect, it is interesting to note that Powers

reports on “Abdication” (p.137 point 7). European way of seeing

this is “Loss of Power”. But, I suspect rather it means “retiring

from responsibility obligation”. “Power” in Native lingo probably

means “Function”. One who “has” a Power is obliged to perform the

function. I wonder, in this sense, what “power” university

professors have.

I ought to mention here that Marx also failed in reaching a

“Science” — Marx had never come to elaborate what he meant by

his “Science”, though he was very proud of saying “Scientific

Socialism”, “Proletariat shall have Science to Liberate

themselves”, etc. —. Marx failed to do “Philosophy of

Technology”, but did only “Mechanics of Power”, and consequently

failed to help the construction of the “Science” that was

expected for the Oppressed to develop.

What you want to do in the name of Native Science is what

Marx, Freud, Jung et al. failed to achieve. Therefore, if you

make mistakes here and there, you have nothing to be ashamed of.

Mistakes will hurt you, but that is all. The important thing is

that you pointed the direction, a Vision/Dream/Prophecy.

[You might think I am unduly hard on you, but

actually it is you who picked such a difficult task. It is

as if you are saying you like to jump into a volcano. I

push you over the cliff, because you are standing at the

edge. Afterwards, I and friends of yours will erect a

gravestone there, inscribed as “Here once stood a brave

soul”.]

I would go on further to say Native Science is a way to

“Wisdom”, not the “science” of the European sense. And if it is

“Wisdom”, it has to be in a Community/Culture, not property of

one individual, however genius you are. It can only be developed

by “History”. All we can do is the task of Midwife. And you need

co-operation of many people, and communities (Participatory

Research?). What I am proposing you to write is not Native

Science itself , but merely one among many “about Native Science

— something like “Comparison of What Native and European

Sciences would say about Community Healing/Therapy.” —.

Richard Gwyn, writing on the crushed “Prague Spring” 20

years ago, says: “The real cost of that smashing of a mailed fist

into a gentle smiling face has been an intangible one. The

Czechoslovak sickness of today is neither economic nor political

but is psychological; it can only be described as

institutionalized immorality”. [Leth. Herald. Aug 23.] If one

says this about Czechoslovakia, what must one say about The First

Nations of America? Is it Institutionalized Immorality? And if

so, how does one go about Healing it?

Yours

Sam K.

(*2) As to K.J. Arrow’s Impossibility Theorem, see Social Choice

And Individual Value. John Wiley 1951. Cowles Foundation

Monographs vol. 12.

My Economist friend referred me to Q. James, Saposnik, and

Ruben. General Equilibrium And Welfare Economics but I have

not read this.

The main point of Arrow’s Theorem is that “Values” cannot

be ordered in a linear hierarchy (in Boolean Lattice). If a

set of propositions does not form a Boolean Lattice, the

Classical Logic cannot be applied. For Non-Boolean set, the

Probability Calculus becomes unworkable, Quantum Logic is

Non-Boolean. It creates linguistic situations where The

Principle of Exclusion of the Middle breaks down

(Uncertainty

Principle). A Dutch mathematician E. Brouwer talked about

this problem in 1920-30s.

But, as far as I know of, there has been no Social Science

built upon explicit basis of Non-Boolean Logic. There have

been suggestions that Zen philosophy is non-Boolean, but I

have not seen any serious writing about this. There is also

such a thing as “Fuzzy Logic”. But I see no sign of it

applied to Socia1 Sciences.

I would like to ask you, or to Woody, if Quantum Logic

(Non-Boolean Linguistic Structure) can be found in Native

narrations. I am looking for cases where “Either/Or”

propositions get into clear trouble.

As to Quantum Logic, I enclosed some references. But they

perhaps require some more explanations and elaborations to

make it relevant to Cultural talks.