Uli is the center of the universe where things are perfect. Perfect power. Perfect harmony. And there we become enlightened to the deeper meaning of the words of our ancestors, of our elders. But uli is not up there. Uli is in here. Uli is deep, deep down, in between the atoms. It’s that space there. It has so much energy, so much power and harmony. If it is in perfect balance, then things start to come. That uli in us, that deep down space in us is where we must go. When we can go there, when we can go to that darkness within us and reach deep, deep down inside, we will find the answers, all we need to know as indigenous people.